Could Holga.D succeed as an Open-source camera?
Since posting the Holga.D concept on my website, I have received a huge amount of positive feedback and inquiries about the camera. I want to thank everyone for their support!
Thrilled and happy by the widespread interest in the camera, I thought I’d like to share with you my initial thoughts behind it.
This is going to be a relatively long post, so here is the gist :
I would like to see Holga.D is as an open-source camera platform, co-developed by like minded enthusiasts and professionals from all related fields. At the end of it’s initial development the hardware design (the schematics, bill of materials, PCB layout data etc), as well as the software/firmware source code would be available for anyone to produce, distribute and modify under open-source license.
This kind of open-source product license would open up a lot of new possibilities; for example, manufacturers would be able to produce lightweight and cheap plastic camera as well as more expensive and rugged metal body based on the same design. The manufacturers would also be able to develop simple or complex accessories like lens adapters for current or old lenses from other brands, lenses, viewfinders etc. Likewise, on the software/firmware side, the open source code would also open up new possibilities.
The development of Holga.D is not just about the toy camera but it’s a culmination of several ideas that has led me to work on this project. Above all, I wanted to address the concept to two ongoing phenomenons in the society: Open-source consumer product development and Homebrew softwares.
1. Open-source consumer product development
In the past few years there has been many successful open-source software projects (Mozilla, WordPress and many others…) which have gained mass popularity and have become part of our daily life.
What about open source consumer products then? Well, that isn’t a new thing either: there has been many initiatives for open source projects (Bug-labs, Open-source Rapid prototyping and CNC machines and so on). However, all of them have focused towards a very small niche.
What about open-source products which are desirable by the mass and seen as a viable alternatives to commercial products?
There are some strong advantages in the open-source model: While most commercial products are limited to a fixed set of features imposed to the end users, the open-source products would be totally adaptive and flexible. It would provide the users the right to customize based on what they need.
2. Homebrew softwares
For the past few years we are seeing a tremendous popularity of ‘homebrew’ softwares and firmwares. iPhones get ‘jail-broken’ in no time after each OS update is released. PSPs got custom firmware so that homebrew and iso-games saved on the memory stick can be played in PSP. Eventhough Sony tried its best prevent it from happening by updating the firmwares and later the hardware, they all got unlocked sooner or later.
CHDK (Canon Hack Development Kit) is another example where an unofficial firmware is enhancing the feature-set of cheaper Canon cameras to such an extent that some of these custom firmware features (such as ISO and focus bracketing, 64 to 1/10,000? shutter speed, motion-detection triggered photography and so on) does not even exist in the high end models of Canon.
There are plenty of similar examples…
What about having a platform where all these potential could be channelized to create great products instead of suppressing them?
Why does Holga.D have the possibility to become a popular and desirable open-source consumer product for the masses?
I believe, Holga D could be (perhaps the first) viable, desirable and popular open-source product for the masses. Here are few reasons why:
1. Demand
There are a lot of people who would like to use Holga or similar toy cameras but are inhibited by the cost and complexity of development, availability of film etc. For them, the digital version, Holga.D, would be a much more convenient and economically viable option, yet true to its origins.
2. Legacy
Holga is already a known brand and has a significant number of fan-following who would like to have it for the ‘brand-name’ only.
3. Realistic expectations
The expectations are not very high: the cameras in the mainstream market are expensive (although you can get SLRs for as cheap as 450USD) because they need to deliver certain image quality. But Holga is known and loved for it’s vignetting, chromatic aberrations, barrel distortions and and so on! So it’s much easier to reach these ‘expectations’ with low cost.
4. Shared software development
Because it’s open-source, the independent software developers would be able to create the firmwares/softwares much more easily. The communities such as CHDK can come in for help.
5. Potential of future growth
It could gradually evolve into a higher end product with even larger mass appeal beyond the toy camera users.
With it’s basic plastic lens the quality of the photographs might not be good enough for everyone’s taste but as it evolves, it would be able to have better lenses cheaply manufactured by small companies. And of course, with simple adapters it can use most of the existing lenses from other brands and all the old lenses available on Ebay for dirt cheap price. That is why it has a detachable lens and a plastic-but-SLR-like lens mount (which can also be replaced by a metal ones) and SLR-like shutter speed range.
Because it’s a camera with large sensor (full frame or 1.5x crop frame), one may want to put a rangefinder-type of viewfinder (I didn’t put it in the accessory list of Holga.D page in order to keep things simple and close to the original Holga) into its accessory port. This would be a lucrative solution for those who want to use rangefinder-like cameras but often inhibited by the price of cameras presently available in the market.
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*I was still brewing the above thoughts in my head and was not prepared to write about it so early, but now that the camera is out and seems to be resonating with many people out there, I thought it’s a good idea to talk about it while this topic is still hot.
I would like to know your thoughts, ideas, constructive feedback about the proposal of making Holga D as an open source camera. I would also like to know what do you think would be the other opportunities if a camera like Holga.D becomes reality, the possible challenges for it (and if possible, the suggestions to overcome those challenges) and how do you think we should take this forward from here.
Most importantly, it would be great if you guys could spread the word and pull in people who you think would be able to contribute to the development of Holga.D.
For my part, I am ready and willing to provide my expertise as an industrial designer for it’s development. I would do everything I can to make this camera a reality, but it would take all your contribution to make it a real product so that we all can have Holga.D soon!
July 18 2010 12:43 am | Concepts
I love the design of this. I have a suggestion for it. I think it would be cool and a lot more “holga like” if it had a winder that you have to wind to take the next photo. The reason for this would be so you could get a double exposure if it is not wound. Ahhh! That would be so cool. I want one!
This is exactly what I am looking for!
YES! This would fantastic! But please, no Aps-c sensor, just make it FF.
Two shutterspeeds and two apertures would be perfect, and then you just have to choose Iso. Simple, but everything you need to shoot the best pictures in the world. I would love interchangable lenses.. Like one extreme wideangle at 20mm, and one normal lens at about 45mm.
I would also like to have one lens that actually was sharp enough for commercial use.. Because, this Holga would then be all I would ever need.
Great idea and concept, I just love it!
Loved the Holga as a college student…and I actually found this page by Googling to see if anyone had done this yet! I vote for a viewfinder, but no LCD. LCD takes all the mystery out of it.
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Sounds Amazing. I will be the first on pre-order if this camera is made!
I want it bad. It’s so beautiful. Make it happen!
take whatever action is needed to realize that. can´t wait to shoot.
Make it! I would definitely buy one. It’s a terrific idea!
A suggestion: it would also be amazing if you could adapt the technology to video- something with the qualities of a Holga image, but with motion, and the aspect ratio and resolution of contemporary HD. I have long been waiting for such a video camera to come along; a camera that bypasses all the high-tech features and expense in favor of something more artful and direct, like PixelVision or Super-8.
One more thing: the Kickstarter campaign is a good idea. I managed to raise $7K for a film project in about three weeks using Kickstarter, and your project has a potentially huge audience!
Very, very nice. I agree with many of the commenters above: there is an enthusiastic market for this device, especially at an appropriate price. Obviously a work of love. Much success with this project!!
if u want it money for the project put it up on here, http://www.kickstarter.com/
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I think this idea needs to be posted on Slashdot. We can then guess the minutes it takes for the slashdot effect to bring down the servers.
It’s a great idea.
I’m an computer engineer, and I’d love to help with this project.
One huge concern I have however, is the dynamic range of the sensors. CCD/CMOS will have less dynamic range than film, and will have a very different response. More specifically, you can’t really blow out portions of film, because the more exposed film gets, the more light it takes to expose it even more.
Another concern I have – you really can’t source “last generation” sensors. Some manufacturers might have overstock – but a fab costs the same to run no matter what its making. Its a one time cost to upgrade the capabilities of the fab, and once thats done, its best to make the most advanced thing you can get.
Good luck, and I’d love to help in whatever way I can.
The idea is great, and I know the goal is full frame sensor with cheap plastic lenses, but a 16mm size sensor with a c mount would be an easy way of having many lens options for the camera. from cheap cctv lenses to expensive 16mm cinema lenses
Hi there,
I must say you had inspired me, and I would love to help in developing this camera with my limited skill sets.
To summarise, I graduated with a mechanical engineering degree, also a freelance in graphic design and animations. I also modify and make some of my photography equipment. Although I am not yet an industrial designer, I wish I can be one.
In return, I would love to see the development of this camera through till completion.
Rgd.
It looks so nice…
To be closer to analog model:
1. Standard (not removable) wide angle lens, and optical viewfinder.
2. 2-3 aperture holes, using ring on the lens.
3. No LCD frame counter. Replace it with a system using film-wing lever coupled with OLD STYLE frame counter ring. Internal memory for store a maximum number of picture, eg 12 or 16 etc. When the user covers this number, must “change film”… OK, one extra button can copy the internal memory to SD card, and clear internal memory, and resets frame counter. The used is ready to shot on a “new unexposed film” …
With or without my ideas, I’m ready to order…
I love this concept. I am a huge fan of the holga and have been looking for a digital holga, as well as contemplting trying to build one for years. The fact that it doesn’t have a display is awesome. Is it design to work with holga accessories? I would buy at least one in a heart beat and I would love to get involved in development and testing. How much of an investment are you looking for to move forward? Email me
Thanks
Benjamin
I would literally give every piece of photography equipment I currently own to have one of these. I will check this website every day to see if and when it will come out, because this is glorious and I will worship it. That is all.
This sounds like an amazing idea. In general the idea about an open source camera is brilliant.. I would love to explore more sides of photography with an open source toy camera like this, and even in the name of Holga..
my greatest support for the project.
Regards
This camera looks great. I wish it was already out so I could take it on my vacation!
Pierre from Italy, great great great idea!
The only thing I can think about is to raise money online for a first development, I think it’s called “online fundraising” or so, I can search for this, grab informations, return them to you and see what can be done.
Would like to contribute to make this project a reality and shoot with the camera some day, soon I hope
Please make this. I beg of you.
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Please hurry! It’s the perfect Xmas gift and I have a ton of screaming Mexican photographers wanting this Holga D sooooo bad!
Beautiful! I look forward to the day.
Photography is an art; we seem to have forgotten this.
… that’s what I have been waiting for!
Big disappointment that I can not buy it…
Finally a lovely digital toy camera!!!
I ‘like’ the FB page so I hope to be updated on
the process and where and when I can buy one.
Can’t wait!
+1 kickstarter. count me in!
I would LOVE to have one! Would buy one in a second.
I love the Holga Cameras and own four of them to date !
It would be really excellent to have a basic digital Holga camera that also encompasses some of the more popular effects that we are seeing on some of the small Japanese digital “toy” cameras and phone apps available these days, saturation, grain, colour filters etc…….this would be my dream camera !
The design of this camera is outstanding. I love the simplicity, and the no screen for a surprise later just like with film! Please get this into production! I would love to see it record in RAW so that the open source community could make software “actions” like in photoshop to simulate various types of light leaks, color saturations, black and white effects, etc. all with the same shot! What creative versatility that would bring!
PLEASE PLEASE MAKE THIS. I’ll be the first person to buy it!
i must have one.
I have literally just soiled my pants
don’t change anything about the design.
Like everyone else… I would pony up for this right now. Keep it simple, no LCD or maybe a way to add one as an option.
OH MY GOSH. Make this! PLEASE!!!
It’s such an amazing idea. Oh, and please make it Mac-friendly too? I would have so many more ‘lomo-digi’ cameras if I could actually use them on my Mac.
How about an Olympus Pen E-PL2 or E-P3 with an HLW-OP?
Brilliant concept. I really like the part “The features… or the lack of it!” Great stuff. And YES to NO LCD! Great idea for that by the way. It’d be cool though to have a color splash on the flash it self. hehe Great concept on the Holga-D
good luck with development, will definitely be purchasing when it releases.
PLEASE SOMEONE MAKE THIS CAMERA!!!! It WILL sell all over the world.
I CANNOT wait to get my hands on one at ANY COST!
Good job! I would like to buy it very soon. I love this design. Why great companies doesn’t work in this way? less is more!
I would totally love one! what amazing work =D
I love the design and the idea behind. Realize it. And of course let me know time and place where i can buy this pretty baby.
Please let me know as soon as this is available for purchase, because me and at least 2 of my friends will buy one immediately
I love the idea but the digital Holga is the iPhone and other smartphones. These have a fixed length lens and Apps with a wide range of filter effects. They also have the advantage of being always with you.
Regarding the concept I have a few comments.
Exposure on digital is much more important than in film so it would be difficult to just have a limited setting of apertures and shutter speeds. You probably need a wider setting of choices or an aperture mode.
Full frame sensors are quite expensive and you probably won’t be able to source an old generation one. As soon a manufacturer changes que production line is cheaper to source a sensor from that generation than something older (which is not produced anymore).
Considering all these I would make the Holga D a Micro 4/3 compatible camera. The sensor would be cheaper and widely available (the production volumes are much higher). It would benefit from having a huge offering of native lenses and adaptors for other formats (like Leica M). And it would leverage on a nice community of users that enjoy using old manual focus lenses with these cameras.
I hope you find my comments valuable and please contact me if you need any support on this project.
This product would be a Godsend for anyone interested in fantastic lo-fi spontaneous photography without the hassle of technology and /or film. I love lomography and the spontenaity it encourages but I can escape from the simple fact that it is expensive and quite simply a hassle to source and develop film.
I will be watching developments with great excitement!
Make the CCD black and white only with no Bayer filter, at least as an option.
This is a very good idea. Your design is excellent.
I have been looking for a simple digital camera and they don’t seem to exist. You have identified the Lomo / Holga market, but don’t forget old people who don’t like complex technology, also travellers and others who want rugged simplicity and long battery life.
I am convinced that if this was properly done it would be popular and profitable. I hope you raise money on Kickstart and make this happen!
Should try launch this on Kickstarter – perfect for this type of project and would ensure enough funds are supplied for the dev process.
I love Holgas/lomography and old cameras and have many of both, as digital can be too clinical and easy as such.
Two points or ideas:
- Cross-processing effect would be great either as part of the model or an open source development
- Fish eye effect or lens
I’d be in heaven and definitely buying one, so good luck as the World needs this
This idea is brilliant. And i agree with the previous comment, don’t change anything! It has amazingly unique features, i love it so much and i would definitely buy it.
But of course, the film camera-like back panel is much cooler and very analogue-camera-ish.
And please sell it at a reasonable price, i’d really want to own this and i really hope the price of it will not be an issue!
I really like the idea, except for the limiting of the dials on the top. It seems a tad redundant. otherwise, I really really want to see this made.
This is an absolute must have for any camera collection! It’s like the watch in a mans wardrobe. There’s just something simple and refreshing about it.
Cannot wait until it´s ready to order
it needs a non focusing plastc window viewfinder, many of the old slr lenses have zone focus markings so it would not change the holga feel, also it would be nice to have it so you could choose the mount because many old lenses use the pantax mount so young kids like myself could dig up the old slr lenses and use them without having to figure out the old slr and getting a battery conversion for it as many old slr’s used murcury batteries like the one iv got.
i think the technical hurdles are being understated here, not to mention it is impossible to recreate what made the holga (or diana) camera images special (dof for one) without a true medium format sensor, or software filters which defeats the purpose of your design.
i think you should do what you need to make this camera, but labelling it “holga” almost makes it look like you are trying to simply attract a market of hipsters who have bought into the the whole “lomography” thing. it can be a product onto itself without rehashing a name that doesnt truly apply
Please make one I would buy it immediately !!!!!
I love this idea. I was mid-development myself with a pair of engineers I know on creating a “digital back” for the Holga. We were looking at taking something like an iPhone camera, and fitting it onto the back of a stock Holga camera (much like the polaroid back works) and adding a mini usb port and some memory.
I adore the idea of this concept and want to help. I want to buy one. I wish I had one right now.
How can I help?
Umm Kickstarter project. STAT. Count me in.
This is a great idea- especially for the young photographer. It would bring out good-old instinct about grabbing opportunity, seeing subjects through your own eyes and framing (without the burden of a film processing studio). Each opportunity to take a photo becomes more precious.. The entire experience of being in any place becomes more precious..
Less is becomes ‘more’ again; as it should be
Oh man I want one of these sooo freaking badly.
so…will this camera allow multiple exposures?
microclicks—which are called holgaramas?
will there be light leaks?
WOW, Make this happen,There IS an need for this Design..
i will add a wireless (blue tooth???)open source wrist buddy lcd /led display, Maybe hack a new sony smart shoe viewfinder etc…put a self charging kenetic charger in her,combine it w. give it usb power from like sonys new usb batt pack…CHEERS…Caleb
Dials … Yes.. people need that tactile touch..Keep the old skol.. Sorry for multiple shout, i wont bother you again.. just heard and got excited
This looks awesome! I hope this goes into production! I would totally buy one!
I would buy this camera in an instant, I feel that holga cameras show a simpler and more real side of everyday life not found in digital photography and having a digital camera that conveys the same feeling would be astounding!
The 4/3 format is an open source format already. I understand everyone wants FF, but maybe a 4/3 version (think Holga 35mm v.s. Holga 120 size) could be made pocketable (at least the body)? I also like the art filters that Olympus includes in their micro 4/3 Pen line. Maybe software filters that do cross processing, or the “red” look (when you shoot through the wrong side of the film), maybe a half frame mode, and maybe a way to shoot at 4 frames per second to make LomoKino styled digital movies? Okay, maybe I’m ruining it. Anyway, just some thoughts.
Maybe make the SDXC card where the cameras operating system and filters are stored. This way I can pull out my card and use it in someone else’s camera, and their camera will behave like mine (have the OS I like to use, the settings the way I like it, the filters I’ve purchased/made, etc). Then there doesn’t have to be any internal memory making manufacturing cheaper. Also it would make the system easy to upgrade.
Strongly consider the idea of making the sensor removable/upgradeable.
Consider a built in battery (like what apple has done. If the OS is on the SD card, and the image sensor and processor are in the same removable/upgradable “area”, then the only thing left that would exist in the body with everything taken away (the top is removable, the sensor CPU system is removable, storage is removable) is the body/battery. People can buy a new body/battery and send in the old one for recycling. There’s really no reason to go with double A’s if you use a USB port to charge the battery (make data readable through the port only if it’s a cheap enough thing to do).
I think adding the ability to do multiple exposures is a great one but there is no need for an extra knob cluttering the design.
There is also no need for a “professional” grade lens. That’s the point of a camera like this in the first place.
Keep the e-ink counter but there should be a mini-usb or some hidden connection to upload photos from the camera (sorry if I missed that part of the design but I didn’t see one anywhere).
Is it possible for the camera housing to have similar light leaks or other imperfections and would that alter the photos at any point other than when the image is taken? Using in camera software based filters seems like cheating somehow.
Great concept and the design is breath taking. If you start a kickstarter campaign I would definitely donate.
In fact, after writing here, I’m going to start working on the Holga 135 D. It’ll be modeled after the Rollei xf using a micro 4/3′s system.
Beautiful! I look forward to the day.
Send this to Kickstarter and get this great camera made! There is a whole nation of photogs who would go nuts for this. Also think about being able to add apps internally to the camera i, there maybe to many issues with Holga as a brand, but it you get enough people to buy in to the development, the companies will come when your ready for the distribution stage. If Holga doesn’t bite, I’m sure Lomo would love to jump on that bandwagon.
This is such an amazing idea! Could it actually be done? I bet lomography would sponsor it somehow…
lomography is strictly analog
Oh my god, please please please get this made!!! I was so excited reading about it and then just when I was reaching for credit card I found out it is just a concept
Why not start a Holga D project on KickStarter, get some funding and lets build 1,000 or so of these! I’ll be there if you do this. Thanks
mail me when it is for sale, i’ll definately buy this!
love it
stephan
I could have sworn I’ve seen these types of cameras already available for quite a while now. Maybe I’m thinking of a different type, like Lens Baby lenses?
Tampa Wedding Photographer
There are a lot of digital cameras that say they have the same features as analog but this is the first one I’m actually positive about!!! Love this! Maybe it would be even better when there is a sort of ‘filter-list’ you can select so that your photos have a vintage feel (like instagram etc). But otherwise this is still great!
Count me in as one who would want one. I would hope it has other effects to attract more people to it. But overall, I think it is about time to have a true Holga Digital Camera.
please, just include a viewfinder. and I will be a content and happy camper and will be one of the first to get this camera.
I would buy the camera right way if the price is reasonable(up to $120)
Also just a recommendation. But could you create a facebook page for this concept? I an sure you would get more followers. Just saying…
It would be great if you could change settings for a picture with software. i’d love to have a possibility to download different kinds of “film” (like in Hipstamatic) and then “put” it into Holga D before i go out shutting. it’s like, if i’ve loaded camera with the black and white “film”, then all the pictures today would be b/w until i come home and change “the film” into color or any other kind.
i love the design and concept and i see this camera combining Lomo cameras and Hipstamatic/Instagram kind of applications. coz iPhonography is digital lomography but with Holga D camera and interchangeable lenses missing.
please let me know, when i can buy one. and if Holga D will be prototype only. please make two, i’ll buy the other one
Why dont you upload this project to http://www.kickstarter.com/ ?
That way you would have enough money to kick-start this idea. Believe me, you have millions here.
I would love the ability to tape this camera up not quite enough and get light leaks. This is so why I love shooting with a holga. The connection between the photographer and the process would be much more present with this.
I search the net for digital toy cams and got to this page with a dissection of one of those US$10 toy cams. Maybe the electronics enthusiasts in this thread could get an idea on how to make this concept into a reality.
http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2006/12/10-digital-camerahow-do-they-do-it.html
I agree with all the people proposing a kickstarter page. You should start selling these asap!
Been said before, but will say it again -> +1 Kickstarter Project, instant buy!
Awesome work.
Definitly kickstarter would be a great option here.
kickstarter and i’m in!
I would also contribute to the Kickstarter campaign!
Lovely concept – I’ll buy one as soon as they are available
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For me a small display on the top would be the optimum, so that you can check your shot (exposure & focus) afterwards, or even use for composing the shot. Like any from some mobile phone (pre-iPhone).
Don’t like that the flash and the viewfinder shares the same slot – as idiootic as with my NEC, and my XZ-1, which shares viewfinder and flash connector. Can’t have both – idiotic! An extra connector (in this case extra hole doesn’t cost nothing!
Yes, yes! Kickstarter! I’m definitely keen! Keep me posted.
May I recommend designing the electronic components so that the camera can run on RECHARGEABLE AA batteries? rechargeable batteries often do not conform to the normal AA specs; they operate at a lower voltage and for this reason they cannot be used in many ‘professional’ type equipment.
If the low voltage is an issue, consider 9V batteries. rechargeable 9v batteries are less common, but they are available.